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[天下杂谈] 有人找出了神不存在的证明啦

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Proof That God Doesn't Exist,
Prayer Doesn't Work
And Religion Creates Psychosis
神不存在的证明,祷告没有用,宗教产生***

有人找出了神不存在的证明啦856 / 作者:心灵 / 帖子ID:16477



"A believer is a bird in a cage. A freethinker is an eagle parting the clouds with tireless wing."
“信徒是一只笼中之鸟,自由思想者是一只不知疲倦地云中飞翔的鹰。

Robert Ingersoll
罗伯特·英格索尔

On the first page of this website is a prayer: "God, protect me from your followers." Well, needless to say, it doesn't work, thereby providing concrete proof that God doesn't exist and that prayer doesn't work. And those who have squeaked through the supernatural protective net have expressed psychosis, which proves that religion creates it.
在这个网站的第一页是一个祷告:“神,请保护我免受你的信徒干扰。”不用说,它没有用,因此为神的不存在提供了证明,那个祷告没有用。那些勉强通过超自然保护网的都表现出***,证明了是宗教把它制造出来。

Some of the nutty messages received include the following. These comments are so generic and typical that they apply to basically any blind believer, with the emphasis on blind.
接受到的其中一些古怪信息包括以下。这些评论是如此一般和典型,它们基本上适用于任何盲目的信仰者,重点是强调盲目。





  • "Your time will come!" This remark could be taken two ways: The friendly interpretation is that someone is wishing me luck. The hateful interpretation is that I am being condemned to judgment by a monstrous god person.
    “你的日子会来到!”这个言辞可以有两种解法:友好的解释是有人希望我好运。敌意的解释是我被谴责要受到一个可怕的神人审判。
  • "Eternity is a long time to be wrong!" All freethinkers have heard this retort, which is a more refined version of "You're going to hell!" This comment is psychotic, in that these blind believers believe there is a "loving" and "forgiving" god person who will hideously punish anyone who dares to question "his" existence. Obviously, we reject such an ugly concept, so this threat doesn't scare us. Also, what if YOU'RE wrong? You have condemned millions of people to hell in your thoughts and words, not to mention that, if you're a Christian, you believe the Jews are guilty of killing God! These are pretty heinous accusations, so you had better be sure that you're not wrong. Blind belief is not a win-win situation. Indeed, it is intellectually dishonest and harmful.
    “永生很久以来都是错的!”所有的自由思想者都听到这个反驳,是“你要下狱!”的更精确版本。这个批评是***的,这些盲目的信仰者在相信这里有一位“爱”与“宽恕”的神人,他在可怕地惩罚任何胆敢质问“他的”存在的人。显然,我们拒绝这样一种丑陋的概念,所以这种威胁不会吓倒我们。同时,如果你是错的呢?如果你是基督徒的话,你在你的思想和语言里已经谴责了数百万人下地狱,更不用说是相信犹太人犯了杀死神的罪!这些是相当可憎的指控,所以你最好是要确认自己没有错。盲目信仰不是一个双赢的解决方法。事实上,它是智力上的不诚实和伤害。
  • "When you die, you will meet your Maker and fall down on your knees before Jesus and ask His forgiveness." Ditto with the above. Why would the "omnipotent" Jesus and "His Father" be so threatened by our unbelief? Did "He/They" not provide us with intelligence? Yet, "He" wishes us to spit on "His" gift and not use it? This asinine comment also means that the hundreds of millions of Buddhists and others who don't believe in the Jewish godman are diabolical and will be severely punished. Those who subscribe to such bigotry are already living in hell.
    “当你死的时候,你会见到你的造物主,然后在耶稣面前跪下,请求他的宽恕。”上述的也类似。为什么“无所不能”的耶稣和“他的父亲”如此容易受到我们这些不信者的威胁?“他/他们”没有提供给我们智慧吗?可是,“他”却希望我们向“他”的恩赋吐口水,并且不用它?这种愚蠢的评述也意味着数亿的佛教徒和其它不相信这位犹太神人的人都是魔鬼,会受到严厉的惩罚。那些同意这种偏执的人已经住在地狱里。
  • "Have you read the Bible cover to cover?" Actually, I have, and the hypocrite who asks such a question obviously hasn't, because the Bible is full of dreadful stories about genocide, murder, adultery, incest, deceit, greed, arrogance, megalomania, sexual perversion, and all sorts of despicable behavior. On second thought, perhaps the people who ask such a question HAVE read the Bible, as we are sure it creates dementia.
    “你有完整地读过圣经吗?”事实上我有,提问这个问题的伪君子显然没有,因为圣经的可怕故事充满了种族灭绝、谋杀、通奸、乱伦、欺骗、贪婪、骄傲、狂妄自大、性变态,还有所有这类卑鄙的行为。其次,也许问“有没有读过圣经”这种问题的人,正如我们认定的那样,是产生了痴呆。
  • "Who made you so angry?" This comment one is full of implications, and I could answer in a variety of ways. One favorite response is "Who made you so dumb?" But I could focus on the "made" part and say, "Well, God made me, so he must have made me angry." I could also point out that the question itself is extremely angry, and that those who see anger everywhere are themselves seething with anger but are repressing it and are thus not mentally balanced. Human beings SHOULD be angry, because their situation is atrocious. If there were such a god person directing everything, they should be very angry at "him," because this world is a mess and every day abominable things are happening to millions of people. Of course, the standard stupid response to this is that "God gave us free will." (See A Question of Free Will.)
    “谁让你变得如此愤怒?”这个批评是充满了暗示,我可以用各种不同方式来回答。一个喜欢的反映是“谁让你变得如此无言?”。但是我可以把焦点集中在“让”上,说“好,是神让我,,所以他必须要让我变得愤怒。”我也可以指出,这个问题本身是极为愤怒的,那些看到愤怒无处不在的人本身也因愤怒而激动,但抵制它,因此精神上不平衡。人类应该变得愤怒,因为他们的处境是残暴的。如果有这样一位神人在指引着一切,他们应该为“他”而发怒,因为这个世界是一团糟,令人厌恶的东西每一天都发生在数以百万计的人身上。当然,对这个的标准愚蠢回答是“神给了我们自由意志。”(见自由意志的问题)
"I'll pray for you!" This comment sounds like an alien language to freethinkers. It comes out something like this: "BZZZPPFFFFTTT." When interpreted, it becomes clear that the person who is making such a comment feels quite smug and superior in that he/she has chosen the RIGHT god, compared to whatever it is you do with your consciousness, such that he/she now has a direct pipeline, whereas you do not, and he/she will put in a good word for you, you lowlife scum. Since the concept of "God" is completely arbitrary, we could respond that we will pray to the Cosmic Mickey Mouse that our well-wishers become intelligent. Naturally, we are not talking about loved ones who make this heartfelt prayer comment in times of true trauma. We are addressing the condescending offer presented by missionaries and proselytizing fanatics who have never even met us but who feel they know we are sinners who need prayer to their "Father in heaven." Theirs is a rather unctuous and smarmy mentality.
“我会为你祈祷!”这种说法对自由思想者来说,听起来像一种外星语。它有点儿像这个:“BZZZPPFFFFTTT”。一旦解释,它就变得清楚,那就是说:一个说出这种话的人会因为他/她选择了正确的神而感到自命不凡和自我优越,相比之下,你不管怎样运用你的意识,这样他/她现在便有了直接的管道,而你没有,他/她会给你说好话,而你却成了卑劣的浮渣。因为“神”的概念完全是武断的,我们可以回应说,我们会向宇宙的米老鼠祈祷,祈求我们的祝福者变得有智慧。自然地,我们不是在谈论心爱的人在受到真正创伤的时候衷心做这样的祷告。我们是说传教士提供的这种谦逊,劝人改变信仰的狂热者甚至还没有见过我们,却感觉到他们知道我们是罪人,需要他们向“天上的父亲”祷告。他们是相当虚情假意和爱说奉诚的心态。


Now, just in case you think I'm being a bit harsh in pronouncing these statements and sentiments psychotic, I offer up the following email--you decide. Do you truly want to live in a world dominated by this kind of mentality?
现在,万一你认为我在宣读这些陈述和的时候有点儿严厉和情绪化,我会给以下邮件——你要的话。你真的想要生活在一个被这一类***人支配的世界吗?

"Alas, your vile vulgarness comes out. It's obvious you and your mind belong to Satan. The message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing. You are a very sad excuse of a human being. You babble about things you know nothing about. The Jews aren't Christkillers. Whoever told you that. Jesus died for all of us, so we all are Christkillers.... Whether or not you like it, or admit it, you were created by God, you will be judged by God, and you will be punished by God. You can play all the games you want to until that day of judgement, but it's coming."
“啊,你卑劣的粗俗又出来了。很显然,你和你的思想是属于撒旦。十字架的信息对于那些讨厌的人来说是可笑的。你是人类的一个非常难过的借口。你在喋喋不休地说一些你不知道的事情。犹太人并不是基督的谋杀者。无论是谁,告诉你说耶稣为我们所有人而死,那样我们都是基督的谋杀者……不管你喜欢或不喜欢,承认或不承认,你都是被神创造的,将会被神审判,受到神的惩罚。你可以玩所有你喜欢的游戏,直到审判的那天,但它就要来到。”

To these loving, advanced concepts, I respond, "You and your mind obviously belong to Ahriman the Devil! Ahura-Mazda the Almighty will judge and punish you! My Persian boogeyman is bigger than your Judeo-Christian one! You barbarian with a bone in your nose! Ooga-booga!" Then I follow this with much saber-rattling, teeth-baring and chest-beating.
对于这些可爱、高级的概念,我的回应是:“你和你的思想显然是属于恶神阿里曼,魔鬼!全能的阿胡拉—玛兹达会审判和惩罚你!我的具有超人力量的波斯恶巫比你犹太—基督教的更大!你骨子里头都是野蛮人!Ooga-booga!”接下去我会更多地战争叫嚣、张牙舞爪和拍打胸口。

All of these comments reflect that the believer is angry, volatile, primitive, arrogant, mentally unbalanced and does not display critical thinking. Let us now spell it out:
所有这些批评都反映了信仰者是愤怒、情绪不稳、粗糙、傲慢、精神失衡,没有表现出批评性思考。现在我们把它都写出来:

·        If you believe there is an invisible giant man of a particular ethnicity in the sky who is directing everything and who is so hateful he will viciously punish us for challenging his existence--
如果你相信有一个特殊民族的不可见巨人在天空中,指挥着所有一切,又是如此可恶,因为我们挑战他的存在而邪恶地惩罚我们——

·        If you believe that this invisible giant man got a 13-year-old virgin girl pregnant, who then gave birth to him as his own son--
如果你相信这个不可见的巨人让一个13岁的童贞女怀孕,然后以他儿子的身份生了他——

·        If you believe that this god person wrote a book--and one book only--
如果你相信这个神人写了一本书——唯一的一本书——

·        If you believe that "confessing the Lord" will instantly remove your sins, thus allowing you to commit more--
如果你相信“向主忏悔”会立即消除你的罪,从而允许你犯下更多——

·        If you believe that a stone will remove your sins, thus allowing you to commit more--
如果你相信一块石头会消除你的罪,从而允许你犯下更多——

·        If you believe in vicarious blood-atonement, i.e., that "the Lord died for your sins" and thus you can commit as many as you wish--
如果你相信替代的血祭,也就是说,“主为你的罪而死”,从而你可以犯下和你想的一样多的——

·        If you believe that merely believing in such a god person makes you righteous, no matter what atrocities you commit and what hatred and intolerance you carry and spread--
如果你相信仅是信仰这样一个神人会使你变得正义,不管你犯了什么样的暴行,你携带和散播什么样的憎恨和不宽容——

·        If you believe that some "good" god person is going to reward you for killing living, breathing human beings "in his name"--
如果你相信一个“好”的神人会因为你“以他的名义”杀死活着的,有生命的人类而得到回报——

·        If you believe that going to church, temple, synagogue or mosque, making pilgrimages, or wearing particular clothes or headdresses, makes you a righteous person, even though you don't behave like one otherwise--
如果你相信去教堂、庙宇、犹太会堂或清真寺朝圣,或者穿上特殊的衣服或头饰会使你变为一个正义的人,即使你的举止不像其它一些人——

·        If you believe that you are special and chosen because of what you believe--
如果你相信因为你的信仰而变得特殊和受捡选——

·        If you believe that it is good to mindlessly go along with whatever anyone tells you about the nature of God and religion--
如果你相信不费心思地跟随是好的,不管任何人告诉你神和宗教的什么样本质——

·        If you believe that believing in one God makes you better than and superior to those who don't--
如果你相信信仰一个神会使你变得比那些不信的更好和更优越——




You are not displaying critical thinking, not using your mind. You are also uneducated as to the world's cultures and history. It is not a sign of great intelligence to blindly believe what someone else has told you is true, especially when such beliefs basically condemn hundreds of millions of other people. Many of these blind believers are simply not very bright, yet they assume that their belief equalizes them with those who are smarter. "Jesus loves you just the way you are!" is the hypocritical hue and cry of those who feel inferior but who will not recognize it and admit it. Yet, according to these same cheerleaders, Jesus DOESN'T love you just the way you are--you must thoroughly change, surrendering your mind and soul to him. A bit of a psychotic extortion racket.
你不是在用你的脑筋,不是在批判性思考。你也没有受过世界文化和历史的教育。盲目地相信其它人告诉你的都是真实,尤其是当这样一种相信是以谴责数以百万计的其它人为基础的时候。许多的这些盲目信仰者都只是不够聪明,可是他们还在假定他们所信仰的会用更聪明的东西来弥补他们。“耶稣爱你就像你爱他一样!”是虚伪的叫声,是那些感到自己低人一等却不会承认或容许它的人叫喊出来的。但是,根据这些同样的啦啦队长,耶稣不爱你,就像你不爱他一样——你必须彻底地转变,让自己的头脑和灵魂臣服于他。这有点像***人敲诈性的吵闹。

The bottom line is that those who dare to question and challenge cherished beliefs which are not rational and reasonable, and who live relatively righteous lives without such irrational and intolerant beliefs, should be recognized as being the epitome of what any god person would wish in "his children." They are utilizing all of the gifts that such a god person would provide, were "he" real. And if they have utilized these "God-given" gifts, they know that the interpretation of "God" is a cultural artifact, not an absolute truth that must be defended and beaten into other people. In using these gifts, they will discover that over the millennia, hundreds of millions of people have held differing opinions as to the Infinite, which is only common sense, since it is, after all, Infinite.
底线是那些胆敢质问和挑战珍爱的信仰是非理性和不合理的,还有那些没有这种非理笥和偏狭的信仰却过着相当正直的生活的人,应该被公认为是任何神人祝愿“他的孩子”的缩影。他们会利用这位神人提供的所有礼物来证明“他”是真的。如果他们已经利用了这些“神—恩赐”的礼物,他们知道“神”的解释是一种文化产品,不是必须要被保护和经常惩罚其它人的绝对真理。在利用这些礼物的时候,他们会发现一千多年来,数以百万计的人都对无限持有不同观点,那只不过是常识,因为毕竟它是无限。

Humans need to lighten up! Their gods and religions are dreary, humorless, wrathful, intolerant, oppressive and generally unpleasant. There is no love, no joy, no fun! Humans are under the dominion of ideologies that are slowly but surely killing them. They need to release them and be free! No one is going to punish them for enjoying life, and there is no point to living if they can't enjoy it. No good god person wants to see people stumbling around in dread seriousness, doing cockamamie rituals and constantly beating up themselves and others. Life is a joke. There is no purpose, so everyone is free to create his or her own, making it as amusing, joyous and scrupulous as possible.
人类需要放松!他们的神和宗教是沉闷、缺少幽默、愤怒、偏狭、压抑和普遍地令人不快。这里没有爱,没有欢乐,没有乐趣!人类在意识形态的支配下会步步为营地杀死他们。他们需要放下它们,变得自由!没有人想要为了享受生命而惩罚他们,如果他们不能享受它,那么生命就没有意义。没有好的神人想要看着人们在可怕的严肃周围磕磕碰碰,做着繁琐的仪式和不断地暴打他们自己和其它人。生命是一场玩笑,那里没有目的,所以每一个人都可以自由地创造他或她自己的东西,尽可能地使它变得有趣、快乐和一丝不荀。

(Hey, folks - the comment that this page constitutes "proof" is TONGUE IN CHEEK. Get it? Geesh.)
(嘿,老乡——这一页的评论构成的“证明”不是认真的。明白了吗?)

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